Doctor Who
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bubbles83I watched Journey's End last night after I got home from work, but was too tired to write anything up. I also haven't really checked my flist to see what your opinions have been. I've just looked at a couple. So here are my pluses and minuses. In the order I think of them.
+ German Daleks
+ Tosh saving Gwen and Ianto. FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE. That's my Toshiko.
+ The companions flying the TARDIS was awesomely awesome. I loved having canon proofs that it supposed to have so many people to fly it. And the hugging. Wait, that should have it's own plus sign.
+ The HUGGING. I loved the Rose/Martha hug and the Doctor/Sarah Jane one.
+ Martha and Rose got along! I was so worried there would be cattiness, and there was none. That was very pleasing.
+ Jack and Martha walking off, holding hands. I really really love their relationship.
+ Martha and Mickey on Torchwood (possibly). I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I love both characters more than is strictly healthy for a person, so I'm glad they might be around. Then again, they're going to be on Torchwood, so who knows how that will turn out.
+ I LOVED DoctorDonna. Loved. I loved how Catherine Tate played it. I loved Donna's glee at it. I loved it. It warmed the cockles of my heart.
+ I liked that Clone!Doctor is half Time Lord, half Donna. I'll get into the stuff is I didn't like about Clone!Doctor below, but the thought that Rose is with some dude who's half Donna? That cracks my shit up.
+ K-9! I fucking love K-9. I didn't know he was going to show up at all.
+ Wilf. Wilf is the man. I love him like Ianto loves pie. He's my hero.
- Way to be a douche to Jackie, Ten. God. It's things like that that make me wish you'd regenerate.
- I'm pretty sure Jack should have been all over Donna, and he wasn't. WTF, Davies.
- This might be sort of unpopular on my flist, but Rose/Clone!Ten creeps me the fuck out. First of all, for some reason Clone!Ten never really seemed like the Doctor to me. Most of the time when I watch the show, I just see the Doctor. But with Clone!Ten I was very aware of the fact that it was David Tennant playing the Doctor. If that makes sense. I don't know why that was, but it weirded me out. B) Clone!Ten has the mind and memories of the Doctor, but in a human body. A frail human body that will age and die. He's stranded on Earth again, with no (immediate) way to go traveling through time and space. He's got to be heading for a pretty serious depression. C) There's more, I'm just not entirely sure how to put it into words. It's this sort of guy level feeling of ickiness I'm not sure how to describe. I don't know if Rusty was going for a They Live Happily Ever After ending, but (for me at least) he totally missed.
- Donna getting mindwiped gets a big FUCK NO from me. It was horrible and gross and I've never cried so hard at an episode of Doctor Who.
? So does this mean they UNcanonified half-human Doctor (depending on whether you considered the movie canon)? Or was just Eight half-human for some reason?
? Did anyone ever explain to Rose why Jack could come back from the dead?
I think I had more negatives I wanted to talk about, but I've had this up since about 8:00, and I just kind of want to post it now. I'm sure I'll post other thoughts if I have them.
In non-Doctor Who news, my ear hasn't really bothered me today. I'm still going to go to the Doctor to have them check it out though. I'd hate to go to Vegas with an ear infection.
There are still 9 letters in the Alphabet meme.
+ German Daleks
+ Tosh saving Gwen and Ianto. FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE. That's my Toshiko.
+ The companions flying the TARDIS was awesomely awesome. I loved having canon proofs that it supposed to have so many people to fly it. And the hugging. Wait, that should have it's own plus sign.
+ The HUGGING. I loved the Rose/Martha hug and the Doctor/Sarah Jane one.
+ Martha and Rose got along! I was so worried there would be cattiness, and there was none. That was very pleasing.
+ Jack and Martha walking off, holding hands. I really really love their relationship.
+ Martha and Mickey on Torchwood (possibly). I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I love both characters more than is strictly healthy for a person, so I'm glad they might be around. Then again, they're going to be on Torchwood, so who knows how that will turn out.
+ I LOVED DoctorDonna. Loved. I loved how Catherine Tate played it. I loved Donna's glee at it. I loved it. It warmed the cockles of my heart.
+ I liked that Clone!Doctor is half Time Lord, half Donna. I'll get into the stuff is I didn't like about Clone!Doctor below, but the thought that Rose is with some dude who's half Donna? That cracks my shit up.
+ K-9! I fucking love K-9. I didn't know he was going to show up at all.
+ Wilf. Wilf is the man. I love him like Ianto loves pie. He's my hero.
- Way to be a douche to Jackie, Ten. God. It's things like that that make me wish you'd regenerate.
- I'm pretty sure Jack should have been all over Donna, and he wasn't. WTF, Davies.
- This might be sort of unpopular on my flist, but Rose/Clone!Ten creeps me the fuck out. First of all, for some reason Clone!Ten never really seemed like the Doctor to me. Most of the time when I watch the show, I just see the Doctor. But with Clone!Ten I was very aware of the fact that it was David Tennant playing the Doctor. If that makes sense. I don't know why that was, but it weirded me out. B) Clone!Ten has the mind and memories of the Doctor, but in a human body. A frail human body that will age and die. He's stranded on Earth again, with no (immediate) way to go traveling through time and space. He's got to be heading for a pretty serious depression. C) There's more, I'm just not entirely sure how to put it into words. It's this sort of guy level feeling of ickiness I'm not sure how to describe. I don't know if Rusty was going for a They Live Happily Ever After ending, but (for me at least) he totally missed.
- Donna getting mindwiped gets a big FUCK NO from me. It was horrible and gross and I've never cried so hard at an episode of Doctor Who.
? So does this mean they UNcanonified half-human Doctor (depending on whether you considered the movie canon)? Or was just Eight half-human for some reason?
? Did anyone ever explain to Rose why Jack could come back from the dead?
I think I had more negatives I wanted to talk about, but I've had this up since about 8:00, and I just kind of want to post it now. I'm sure I'll post other thoughts if I have them.
In non-Doctor Who news, my ear hasn't really bothered me today. I'm still going to go to the Doctor to have them check it out though. I'd hate to go to Vegas with an ear infection.
There are still 9 letters in the Alphabet meme.
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Date: 2008-07-07 07:32 am (UTC)nah they never explained and i wish they did. i guess there was just too much going on in the ep for them to have time alone and talk about it.
Clone!Ten has the mind and memories of the Doctor, but in a human body. A frail human body that will age and die. He's stranded on Earth again, with no (immediate) way to go traveling through time and space. He's got to be heading for a pretty serious depression
But he's got Rose and as original!10 said, she can make him better. She's done it once and she can do it again.
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Date: 2008-07-07 08:54 am (UTC)donna deserved a better ending. it didn't feel tragic to me, it felt lazy, and it pissed me off.
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Date: 2008-07-07 12:02 pm (UTC)I'm a little excited about Martha and Mickey on Torchwood. I don't know why (because I don't think the writing has changed that much), but I've really grown to love Martha. The stuff with her mom was sad and sweet. And Mickey? Awww. I kind of want him and Sarah Jane to hook up because it would be cracktastic and awesome.
The clone!Doctor/Rose is not unpopular at all. I'm really creeped out by it too. It's like RTD was trying to do something nice, but it just turned out horrible. Maybe it wouldn't have been so weird if he had shown up at the beginning of the episode, and if he had more than two scenes.
DONNA. OMG. I'm not over it. I don't think I will ever be over it, and I immediately want someone to write fic to make it better. /I don't care how lame it could be, but I want RTD or Moffat to fix this. It could be the cheesiest resolution ever, and I wouldn't care. I need my Donna!
So, I dunno. Everything awesome about this episode is outweighed by the emotional distress it caused in the last ten minutes. Loving a show this much really can't be healthy.
I'm glad your ear is a bit better. Maybe : )
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Date: 2008-07-07 01:06 pm (UTC)And I can't even deal with what they did to Donna. That gets a big Fuck you very much from me and I hope someone kicked RTD in the shins when they read the script, I'd rather she had died half time lord.
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Date: 2008-07-09 08:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-07-09 08:20 am (UTC)I love Mickey. I've always loved him, and I hope he'll be on Torchwood because I need more Mickey. Sarah Jane/Mickey would be win. So would Sarah Jane/Jack.
I have hopes (based on absolutely nothing)that RTD wanted to kill off Donna, but Moffat convinced him not to because he wants the chance to bring Donna back. Like maybe Jenny could show up on Earth looking for her dad, and run into Donna. Then all of Donna's memories start coming back, but Jenny finds a way to fix her. Then they have awesome adventures IN TIME AND SPACE!
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Date: 2008-07-09 08:23 am (UTC)